Neocon Horowitz Falsely Equates Liberal and Libertarian Sites with Islamo-Fascism

Glenn Beck has impressed me recently (in a good way) with some of the things he has said, but has quickly redeemed himself as being a fool in television for a recent segment he did, full of disinformation, bringing on a guest that was an ex-Marxist turned Neocon fascist. How’s that for a turn around? Beck began the segment by stating that when you join the military you must take an oath to defend the constitution, and fight all enemies, both foreign and domestic. But let’s forget what the current administration has done to the constitution and focus on these supposed “domestic enemies.”

Beck cites this domestic enemy as being none other than a wide majority of the American people. It seems Glenn is a very confused conservative as he acknowledges at this point that he feels the government is reflecting an America that most of us don’t even recognize, and leaders are selling our nation out to special interests of various kinds, but continues to stay in smear mode as he brings up the “money bomb” on November 5th, based off of Guy Fawke’s attempt to blow up the British Parliament building.

Beck calls Fawkes a terrorist and that discontent against the government is a real threat, yet fails to cite that this is exactly what occurred in the years leading up to the Revolutionary War. Were those who fired on British regulars at Lexington and Concord terrorists? Thomas Jefferson believed we should have a type of “revolution” about every twenty years, to tear down the old and reform, to keep the system healthy and in check. Is that a domestic threat too?

Though Beck does bring up a good point during the middle, the inspiration of people like Guy Fawkes and the American Revolutionaries was that they felt the government wasn’t listening to them. This is indeed happening right now in America and other nations in Europe. 70% of the American people, possibly more now, are against the Iraq War, and voted in Democrats to make the point, and nothing has changed. The front runners in both parties will not bring the troops home. Most Americans don’t want amnesty and drivers licenses for illegals, but they try slamming it through anyways. Americans as a majority support fiscal responsibility, which the Republicans failed to do.

Enter David Horowitz, former Marxist radical, turned neocon scum, to show us all the wonders that neoconservativism has to offer us. He begins by stating a lot of people in this country believe that we are the enemy, and they mainly come from the old left, the new left, the secular left, and have “an added constituency of Muslim radicals,” of which “there are many in this country.” (Do these people think America is the enemy, or do neocons think this country is the enemy?)

Horowitz then accuses Democratic leaders of defecting from a war that “they all supported,” which isn’t true either. Beck then notes that unlike the 60’s, this group now consists of the right, who think Bush hasn’t been truthful about the borders and spending. Has he? Horowitz responds by saying there is a strain of isolationism in the American tradition, without noting that neocon foreign policy has made America more isolated from everyone else, more so than in any recent decades.

Ron Paul is then accused of “choosing Guy Fawkes as an image” for his campaign, when neither Ron Paul nor his campaign had anything to do with the money drive, which was started and finished completely by outside volunteers and supporters. Then comes the real bomb from Horowitz, when he states that Libertarian websites are indistinguishable from the anti-American left websites “these days.” But the biggest mistake Horowitz makes in this entire clip is by citing an actual website called lewrockwell.com, so that people can actually check and verify how wrong he really is.

To top this insane rant off, he says these left and libertarian sites are “totally in bed with the Islamo-Fascists.” Whoa. I wasn’t aware of that, were you?

This is the new America that is being run mainly be neoconservatives. Dissent is considered a domestic enemy, especially if you do not follow fully to their obsession with fighting a great evil that they want to perceive exists. I’m not saying there are problems based on Islam in places of the world. There are integration problems with immigrants, there are foolish world leaders from that region, and there is violence. But this has happened throughout all of modern world history.

So why don’t we fact check the nutty things that we just had to painfully listen to. Everyone with an internet connection is free to check out these various sites, and let’s go to lewrockwell.com and see for ourselves, if these guys are really in bed with the Islamo-Fascists.

As of the moment I write this article, I will list some of the subjects I can decipher based on article titles. “Sound Money,” an article based on Ron Paul’s testimony to the Joint Economic Committee. That doesn’t sound so bad, let’s keep going down. “An Open Letter to Protestants,” to … CONVERT TO ISLAM OR DIE? Well … no, just a man writing about why Ron Paul is the best choice for political and religious liberty. Damn, let’s keep going, we’re bound to find something here.

Moving to the Free(er) State,” a man named Bill Walker talking about receiving tax cuts, and having local government uphold gun laws, and you can get these things by moving to .. (Pakistan?!) .. New Hampshire. We all know Sharia law doesn’t lead to freedom, so this article doesn’t incriminate this website either. Moving on. “What the Subprime Mess is Really About.” I’m starting to get disappointed. I was told this was an anti-American website in bed with Islamo-fascists, and they keep putting up this (important) economic junk. Where is the flag burning, the kuran reading, come on now.

Oh wait, what’s this? An article titled “The Peacebomb.” That sounds kind of terrorist like to me, let’s see what this is about. Hm .. Ron Paul supporters are being tied to violence, but they really advocate peace … WHAT?! How dare you. I’m sure there’s some cover up of their anti-American, Islamo-fascist ideologies because of the recent Glenn Beck segment. Let’s take a look at the Lew’s Columns link and see what he is up to. “The Plummeting Greenback” “The Fires of Socialism” “Socialism or Fascism?” Hm .. lot’s of fairly intelligent economics discussion. Maybe Horowitz is secretly still a socialist, that’s why he doesn’t like this place.

Wait, wait, wait, what’s this now? “None Dare Call it Genocide” with the following passage:

But when “we” cause the calamity, suddenly there is silence. There is something odd, suspicious, even disloyal about a person who would harp on the deaths of Iraqis since the US invasion in 2003. Maybe a person who would weep for Iraq is really a terrorist sympathizer. After all, most of the deaths resulted from “sectarian violence,” and who can stop crazed Islamic sects from killing each other. Better each other than us, right?

Not only does he actually bring up Iraqi deaths, but he puts quotation marks around “we.” I finally caught you all over there at lewrockwell!

Sarcasm aside now, hopefully anyone who actually looks at things for themselves will see how lame and shallow people like Glenn Beck and David Horowitz are. Sure, people at these sites are anti-big government, and against the current establishment, but that’s a good thing in the American system, if you’ve forgotten. The founders wanted people disagreeing and discussing. But of course, according to David Horowitz, they are terrorists, along with the left, and probably most other groups, for not nodding their heads to war and a global empire.

The domestic enemy is YOU, David Horowitz, and people like you. Not “America”, not “the people of America,” just the minority that hijacked our country and turned it into a war machine, and ruining our currency to pay for it. But you turn around and try to twist reality around so much that it can’t even be recognized anymore, to say that the majority is really the problem.

But I guess this site is now in bed with Islamo-fascists.

13 Responses to “Neocon Horowitz Falsely Equates Liberal and Libertarian Sites with Islamo-Fascism”

  1. This is a GREAT article, well done. Lewrockwell.com is a great site, thought provoking even if i don’t agree with everything i read there… and isn’t that the essence of what the US stands for? You might not agree with it, but they have a right to say what they want. The Glenn Becks and HOrowitz’s obviously don’t know that. Or, they really DO know that, but are trying to subvert it. You are absolutely right, THEY are the enemy …

    also, nice wordpress skin. ;) (i use the same one heh)

  2. As the Vietnam war wound down David Horowitz published a magazine called “Ramparts” that went broke fast. Anyone reading that rag knew he was a blithering idiot then.

    The market place has not done its job and the braying jackass is back. Just because this clown has been around a while does not mean he has a working intellect.

    Who writes his ticket? Who claims him to be a spokesman? Check his family ties.

    Keep up the good work. I look forward to your next comment.

  3. When they do something as preposterous as this little bit - It only confirms my suspicions, way to show your hand, Beck!

    Great article

  4. “this group now consists of the right, who think Bush hasn’t been truthful about the borders and spending. Has he?”

    Nope. He hasn’t.

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  6. I have, in most occasions, been at odds with the opinions on Lew Rockwell’s website. That said, the website is one of my favourites as it has thought-provoking material articulately presented. If I disagree with the material, I sure as hell have to measure it out and have a proper, well-thought reason. Lew could well make a convert out of an old lefty like me.

    Beck and Horowitz could never make me a convert. At best, AT BEST, Beck is too slimy and inarticulate to follow. Horowitz is just a failed leftist extremist wearing a different hat. As George Orwell said about ex-leftist extremist cum rightist extremist Friedrich Hayek, and it applies fully to Horowitz, “There’s no prude like a reformed whore.”

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  8. John, that’s a charming Orwell quote and new to me, but David Horowitz is no prude. There’s a similar saying about the unmatched zealotry of converts, and perhaps that one’s more apposite to Mr. Horowitz.

    Oldfart, you must’ve been in ‘Nam at the time (in which case I thank you), because nothing in your first paragraph is true. Horowitz didn’t publish Ramparts, it wasn’t a rag and its writers were no slouches. It began at the same time that Kennedy’s presidency did, amassed an impressive readership and ran out of gas at about the same time that Jimmy Carter began his run for the presidency. Its distinguished alumni, of whom Horowitz is one, constitute a Who’s Who of old New Left Neo-Marxists, some of them stallwart and some of them, like Horowitz, apostate.

    Horowitz’s career for more than a decade ran parallel to Tom Hayden’s. At one point they both got down-and-dirty with the Weather Underground, the East Bay bomb-throwers, and at about the same time they became shocked by the ugly subculture of violence (and to some extent, also the attrocious sexism) that the Weathermen promulgated, and they both hooked a right. Shortly after it had turned rightward, Hayden got off that ideological bus at the Bobby Kennedy stop, in the vicinity of which he has remained. Horowitz, on the other hand, rode the bus all the way to Podhoretzville. The two men, both lifelong journalists and book authors, now despise one another.

    Horowitz has done a lot of heavy lifting in the culture wars, which began on the campuses and which he joined, contra the new political correctness, earlier than almost anyone. I don’t think he makes any secret of his having earned living from his writings and from salaries paid out of funds he has raised over the years to operate some rather productive non-profits of his own creation. He possesses an up-to-date and valuable mailing list, and knows how to use it.

    As to his recent criticism of libertarian websites, I don’t think he meant constitutionalist sites such as this one, but he may have had this one also in mind, since it openly labors to do as much damage to the Republican cause as one can do in the name of the GOP and in so doing uses much of the same ammunition as the Democrats do, and in the same way. I think his point is well taken, even though I’d rather participate in this blog that in one of his. Horowitz is a truthful person generally, by which I mean that he doggedly tries to get stuff right. He’s also irascible as hell, frequently insulting, and an inveterate controversialist.

    But then the same could be said of Gore Vidal, with whom he has nothing in common except that both men are actually quite gentle and kind at close quarters.

    P.S. It’s a rare treat to see the word “Neoconservative” used accurately in this blog. Horowitz is indeed one of them; Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, Giuliani, McCain, Huckabee and Romney are not. That this blog amateurishly labels them Neocons, and does so as though it were pejorative, is another inanity that makes this one indistinguishable from Democratic websites.

  9. What in Sam Hill is a “Neo-Lib”? Are you guys all Neo-Idiots? Do you think the prefix makes you sound wonkish or scientific or something? It’s infantile. It’s so infantile it’s hyperinfantilogically infantile.

  10. Hughvic, calling who what political term aside, what do you make of what Horowitz actually said about liberal and libertarian sites being “in bed with the Islamo-fascists”? Have you been to lewrockwell? If not you can go see for yourself. There might be things that are critical of the administration by they are by no means terrorists. Beck never even pressured him on those claims either.

  11. No I haven’t been, but will go. That’s the sort of crude thing that Horowitz would say when his back’s up. With just the slightest rephrasing I could be comfortable saying that about many liberal websites, because libs are now waving the bloody shirt on Iraq at all times, regardless of events in country. They also blatantly dread success in Iraq and would rather invent the troops’ attitudes toward our military footing than solicit the troops’ actual attitudes (which is as easy to do as blogging here). And there’s a lot of other dirt along these lines–e.g. OBL’s actually having cited lib naysaying on Iraq, the sudden lib about-face on Israel and even more abrupt and telling abandonment of Muslim women’s rights–but just this short litany is presumably enough to show that they are classic fellow travelers of the enemy, the latest in a long and sordid line of that type. You guys pick up some of this devil’s advocacy, but were I to see David I’d certainly tell him to check this site and send his estimation. So that’s what I think of his nastiness, to answer your question, and I also think that we should take seriously the possibility that his hotheaded remarks actually signal a growing public anger at the truly outrageous, cowardly, ignorant, self-serving, deceptive, immature and Panglossian anti-Americanism of the left. I worked for Democrats for 20 years and never did I see anything like this.

  12. I suppose the good men and women in Iraq who are fighting this travesty of a war are ‘terrorists’ too. A great many of them sent in money to Ron Paul’s campaign!
    Not watching his show is not enough. The thing to do is to stop buying the products of all the companies who sponsor Glenn Beck’s program. It is clear to me that he is just another in a long line of corporate media whores.

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