Popular vote count
Posted on March 5, 2008 by Lance
Hillary is ahead of Obama in the popular vote if you count Florida, and even more if you count Michigan. If she gets the delegates from those two states she will end up cinching this nomination.
Prepare to hear “comeback kid” for a month or two.
edit 3/06: appears I was wrong, Hillary is only ahead at this time if you count both Michigan and Florida.
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Your analysis is lacking.
Unless you give each state a roughly 60-40 win to Hillary while having do-overs in Florida and Michigan and having unpledged delegates go against the total delegate count, Barak is still ahead in the delegate count.
Google Hillary’s Math Problem.
And if Barak wins the pledged delegate count while losing the popular vote, Hillary will surely take that to the superdelegates for ‘correction’. And, no matter which way it goes then, the GOP will pound the Dems to death for hypocracy about ‘fair’ elections. What goes around comes around.
The Dems only solution is a combined ticket, which will be like getting two todlers who really don’t like each other to play nice together. Michelle Obamea alone would be terrified of Hillary being ‘one heartbeat away’ and Barack does not want a VP ‘team’ that would try to tell him how to run things.
Also, Obama and Clinton both have to realize that- should they lose and not take the VP slot, they stand a good shot at at a clear run in 4 years- if the other loses the general, a distinct possibility.
Even if obama wins every state left with a 55-45 margin, he will come close but still won’t get the nod. Let’s look at it from both sides guys.
Christopher makes a good point…neither candidate will get the majority of pledged delegates unless something completely unexpected happens in any of these close races. Ultimately it will come down to the super delegates. Michigan and Florida can’t be counted as is and will have to be redone. In all likely hood, the delegate gap, after those elections, will still not solve much if you agree that Obama will do a lot better now, given his exposure, than he would have done in Michigan if he was on the ballot and Florida had he campaigned.
Question to anyone who can answer it - does anyone know the popular vote score at this point? It’s not easy to add up the CNN totals from their site and they don’t do it automatically.
As far as I know neither can get nomination and it does not matter who is ahead in delegates or popular vote…it will be the final decision of the super delegates which should always be based on one one thing.. and one thing only. Who can win the Presidency. Come August whoever is the most electable should get it. Winning is the name of the game.
Even if both popular vote counts from Florida and Michigan were counted as they stand Obama would still be leading by +80,642
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/democratic_vote_count.html
I think the superdelegates should support whomever the people have chosen.
Hillary pledged not to run in or count the votes from Michigan or Florida. Counting two states where the other candidates did not campaign is not legitimate.
That’s not what realclearpolitics.com’s website shows. Look here:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/democratic_vote_count.html